RC 387: Down By The River (Abhainn)

From relatives in Ireland to making artworks down the river, FIFTY FIFTY stanning to Nick Drake covers, Alfred Noyes and nostalgic jungle, slide guitar breakcore and Fleetwood Mac doom metal, Kings of Spain and Bitch Queens, sea journeys, sloops, metal watermarks and shipwrecks, this podcast has it all like a long blue wide winding river.



A podcast mostly about joy, rivers and finding relatives in far off places..



Avon Calling, Is That A River, Owen? And off to the sea I go… (211Mb, 2:30)



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Dylan Moran – There’s Nothing We’re Doing Right



ToToM – Radio Clash Jingle – Bullshit Opportunities in Drum and Bass



iWillBattle – I Believe In a Bad Idea (Olivia Rodrigo x The Darkness)



Instamatic – Bitch Queen Roar (Meredith Brooks vs Katy Perry vs Taylor Swift vs ABBA)



Boards of Canada – Telephasic Workshop



MarkJMix – Together Celestial (Ed Sheeran vs The Farm ft Chumbawamba & Aerosmith)



ah! – Your Monkey’s Like Heaven To Touch (Engelbert Humperdinck vs Pixies)



Captain Obvious – Manic Cupid (Fifty Fifty vs The Bangles)



John Rocca – I Want It to Be Real (Late Nite Tuff Guy Edit)



Frank Ski feat. Miss Tony – Yes!



Antony Szmierek – The Words to Auld Lang Syne



Make A Dance feat DEADLETTER – Line The Cows (Make A Dance Remix)



Megablast Sound System – The Way We Were In ’75 (Gladys Knight & The Pips vs Windsor Davies & Don Estelle vs Johnny Nash vs Wings vs Kraftwerk vs Judge Dread vs The Stylistics vs Eric Clapton vs 10cc vs The Goodies vs Judy Collins)



Venetian Snares & Daniel Lanois – Night Mxcmpv1 P74



iWillBattle vs Danny Macabre – Chain Pigs (Black Sabbath x Fleetwood Mac)



FIFTY FIFTY – Lovin’ Me



Minor Arth – The Edge Of Sloop John B (The Beach Boys vs Panda Bear & Sonic Boom)



DubXanne – Girls Just Want To Have Fun Ft. Denham



DEADLETTER – Degenerate Inanimate



Vivian Stanshall – Doing A John Peel Impression



µ-ziq – 1977



Aurora – Pink Moon



Cara Dillon – Black Is The Colour



Ampersandman – Watermark



Joni Mitchell – The Dawntreader (2021 Remaster)



Famous Blue Cable – River Man ft Feist



Sir Hank on drugs – Bad Habits in Hotel California (Eagles vs Ed Sheeran)



Clannad – Coinleach Glas An Fhómhair



Cara Dillon – Blue Mountain River



Joni Mitchell – The Circle Game (live)



Katherine Priddy – I Think They’re Leaving Me Behind




Cover – detail Jackdaw Man, Fountain pen and wash, A4, 2022







Transcript
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00:36.160 –> 00:41.280 Hello and welcome to Radio Clash this is 387 and it’s Down By The River, Abhainn as they say in Irish



10:00.880 –> 10:05.840 And that was, well, me,



10:05.840 –> 10:12.320 Bitch Queen Roar, Meredith Brooks versus Katy Perry versus Taylor Swift versus Abba.



10:12.320 –> 10:16.640 Yeah, that’s become a bit of an answer for me. I mean, that Katy Perry, right in the verse about



10:16.640 –> 10:22.160 didn’t speak up, and I let them walk all over me. Yes, is me. As they say in Drag Queen World,



10:22.160 –> 10:28.640 when haters is gonna hate, just become more fabulous. And then, at the start of the section,



10:28.640 –> 10:33.920 we had the person who exclusively played the demo of that mashup on their Twitch stream,



10:33.920 –> 10:40.880 that’s iWillBattle, I Believe In A Bad Idea, Olivia Rodrigo’s new single versus



10:40.880 –> 10:45.360 The Darkness. I Believe In A Thing Called Love, and it was a weird time when I heard that,



10:45.360 –> 10:49.760 because not only do I know, because I’ve been watching Justin Hawkins Rides Again, and I



10:49.760 –> 10:56.640 had to, I’m not a big Darkness fan, but if you like Rick Beato, and that kind of music criticism,



10:56.640 –> 11:01.440 and talking about the industry, you’re loved Justin Hawkins Rides Again, except he’s less



11:01.440 –> 11:05.360 technical, more all over the shop, but very passionate views, and I do like that a lot.



11:05.360 –> 11:10.160 I think he’s a fan of Olivia Rodrigo, so I said to Will, send it over, send it to him. I think



11:10.160 –> 11:16.240 you’ll love it. That works so well. And I did have a look at the new single, and I quite like



11:16.240 –> 11:20.080 Bad Idea, but I couldn’t think of anything to work with it. When I heard that, I was like, oh,



11:20.080 –> 11:26.560 perfect. That works really well. So the histronic nature of the Olivia works well with The Darkness,



11:26.640 –> 11:31.600 which is, you need a kind of histronic vocal for a Darkness mashup. It’s, you know, that’s



11:31.600 –> 11:39.680 what The Darkness do. And at the start, we had ToTom’s Jingle for Radio Clash, Bullshit Opportunities



11:39.680 –> 11:46.960 in Drum and Bass, and yes, this is 387. It’s the Down by the River podcast, or I even learned how



11:46.960 –> 11:51.680 to say River in Irish is Abhainn. If there are any Irish listeners who are like, you said that wrong,



11:51.680 –> 11:58.560 Abhainn, because there is a Irish link to this podcast. Not only do we have Irish music later on



11:58.560 –> 12:04.800 and throughout the podcast, I’ve been doing my Ancestry shizzle. I’m doing a DNA test. That’s



12:04.800 –> 12:10.400 not going to come out for a while. There will be secrets, and my family is just a hot mess.



12:10.400 –> 12:17.120 Not in a bad way, but a bunch of troublemakers and also a shitload of secrets and blended like



12:17.120 –> 12:22.160 our family breaks genealogy of websites because they can’t really cope with all the



12:22.160 –> 12:27.680 parents with multiple marriages, half siblings, and then you throw in my mother who



12:27.680 –> 12:32.400 was adopted. You just get to the slide at that point and you’re like, yeah. So I’m doing that.



12:32.400 –> 12:38.240 I mentioned it before that it’s a bit further back than I thought it was, but I do have Irish



12:38.240 –> 12:45.920 heritage. I know cliche, I should be American. Oh, I’m Irish. No, no, it’s, but my great-great



12:45.920 –> 12:51.280 grandmother’s parents were from Offaly. There were Offaly nice people. They were from Kings



12:51.280 –> 12:56.400 County as it’s then. It’s now called County Offaly. And on the other side of the divide,



12:56.400 –> 13:05.280 my grand uncle, I think that’s right, married a woman whose parents were from Ulster. And so,



13:05.280 –> 13:09.520 yeah, I know I’ve said it, I’ve joked with them before. We have UDA and IRA in my family. That



13:09.520 –> 13:15.520 wasn’t a joke. You do know that. It’s not a joke. It wasn’t a joke. Anyway, luckily I don’t know them,



13:15.520 –> 13:20.960 but yeah, there is, I tell them we’re troublemakers. It’s interesting formalizing that, but all the



13:20.960 –> 13:26.640 other stuff that I’m finding in pictures, pictures of my, I so-so like my, I think my great-great



13:26.640 –> 13:31.920 grand uncle is very cute. I think three greats. It gets complicated with outside the family.



13:31.920 –> 13:36.480 Even like changing names, I’ve got a bunch of them that they didn’t marry. So they took some of them,



13:36.480 –> 13:41.440 took the mom’s name. I think all the women of that family took the mom’s name, but then the



13:41.440 –> 13:46.320 boys all took the father’s name. You know, that is a nightmare. But anyway, so we have an Irish



13:46.320 –> 13:49.680 team podcast. We’ve got some folk in here later on. I know some of you will be loving that.



13:50.720 –> 13:57.040 A whole bunch of mashups, Electronica, and I’m about to go off on holiday. So this podcast has



13:57.040 –> 14:04.800 been recorded a bit in a hurry because I don’t know when I’ll get to do another one because



14:04.800 –> 14:08.800 I’m going to go away for probably about at least a week. It might be longer, but I’m just sort of



14:08.800 –> 14:13.680 doing all the packing shit at the moment. And we know how stressful that was last time. So I’m



14:13.680 –> 14:17.120 actually doing a spreadsheet this time. We’re going to see if that makes it easier. It probably



14:17.120 –> 14:23.920 won’t. So in April, it was 25 years since the release of Music Has the Right to Children. And



14:23.920 –> 14:28.640 Ian Fondue reminded me of that fact on Facebook today? And I was like, oh, I really must put a



14:28.640 –> 14:34.720 Boards of Canada track in there. And it’s interesting. I have played fair bit from Boards of Canada,



14:34.720 –> 14:40.880 but not this song, which I was quite surprised. And I have to say that album when it came out in



14:40.880 –> 14:46.640 1928 was a really important one to me. And it still hasn’t really been beaten. I mean, the only



14:46.640 –> 14:51.040 people have maybe come closer are Boards of Canada themselves. And I think a lot of people have



14:51.040 –> 14:56.240 tried. I mean, look at Wikipedia, they mentioned people as a list of people I love, like Lone



14:56.240 –> 15:02.080 and Ulrich Schnauss and FourTet and a bunch of people that you’ve put you’ve heard on this podcast



15:02.080 –> 15:07.120 a lot. But you know, much as I love those people, there is only one Boards of Canada. So this is



15:07.120 –> 15:11.760 Telephasic Workshop, the Telephasic Workshop. Too much rum and coke.



50:03.280 –> 50:09.200 I do like indie dance, so I miss indie dance.



50:09.200 –> 50:15.120 That’s sort of an electro, a bit Section 25 as well. That’s Make A Dance featuring DEADLETTER,



50:15.760 –> 50:22.240 Line The Cows, Make A Dance remix, and I had another track of theirs on 6Music, and



50:22.960 –> 50:27.200 you’ll probably hear that a little bit later on, it’s more sort of punky,



50:27.200 –> 50:32.080 indie. They are from Sheffield, maybe not from Sheffield, it was South Yorkshire. They’re from South



50:32.080 –> 50:37.440 Yorkshire. Got to be right with our geography, with ancestry. It’s fun, it’s like naming differences



50:37.440 –> 50:42.720 between things. And that came out in 2022. You find that on their Bandcamp account, or Make A Dance



50:42.720 –> 50:47.600 Bandcamp account, you find it via DEADLETTER’s Bandcamp account, I think. And then before that we had



50:47.600 –> 50:53.680 Antony Szmierek, that has been rinsed incredibly so by 6Music, but you know, I know I don’t like



50:53.680 –> 50:59.280 to duplicate, but sometimes you have to repeat because it’s good. And it mentions rivers as well.



50:59.280 –> 51:03.760 Having explained the river theme down by the river, I actually weirdly am not playing Down By The



51:03.760 –> 51:09.280 River by Neil Young. I tried to find a cover I liked, and it wasn’t Big Bad, but I couldn’t really



51:09.280 –> 51:16.000 find one. But most is because I’ve been working down the river doing my usual artworks. It’s not



51:16.000 –> 51:20.640 down, it’s kind of a pun, it’s not down as interpressing. Although, you know, maybe later on. But no,



51:20.640 –> 51:25.040 mostly, ironically, through something called down by the river, this is actually quite a joyful



51:25.040 –> 51:31.360 podcast. And a reference to Nick Drake, because I’m listening to a lot of the recent compilation



51:31.360 –> 51:37.280 I’ve played some of the tracks from last time. And they’ll crop up again later. But yeah,



51:37.280 –> 51:42.400 there’s a Pseudo River theme and also a Pseudo Irish theme. I’ve only played one Irish track so far,



51:42.400 –> 51:48.400 which is, yeah, yeah. Later on, later on, later on. And then before that, we had the not Irish,



51:48.400 –> 51:55.760 but certainly very outspoken Miss Tony with Frank Ski, that’s yes. And that’s from Bitch



51:55.760 –> 52:01.760 Track II, the follow up to Tony’s Bitch Track, the one I used in the mashup recently. So when I was



52:01.760 –> 52:06.240 digging around for that, I found that one. Oh, definitely. Why have I not played this in the



52:06.320 –> 52:13.280 podcast? And then before that, we had John Rocca with I Want To Be Real, Late Night Tuff Guy edit.



52:13.280 –> 52:19.440 I like that a lot. A recent edit of John Rocca. And I didn’t know about that song. It was kind of



52:19.440 –> 52:25.040 post-freeze. He did some solo singles, not many. I want them was I want it to be real.



52:25.600 –> 52:30.400 I like they’re almost like speaking spelly type. I want it to be real, real, real. You can tell it’s



52:30.480 –> 52:36.880 like 1984, 83, 84. You can tell, you know, with a real, real, real, you know, playing the chorus



52:36.880 –> 52:43.680 up and down the keyboard without smashed glass. That’s basically 1984. That’s the music of 1984



52:43.680 –> 52:49.920 on a nutshell. But yeah, no, I like that a lot. And I do like Deep House. I mean, getting more into



52:49.920 –> 52:55.200 Deep House, I’ve never not into Deep House. I was to Deep House back in the day when it wasn’t called



52:55.200 –> 53:01.120 Deep House. I mean, Deep House is a fairly new name for it. At the time, it was just



53:01.120 –> 53:06.640 House, you know, and later on, there’s all these different variants. But certain stuff I



53:06.640 –> 53:11.520 like was more soulful, sort of lower base, that sort of Deep House template. That’s the house I



53:11.520 –> 53:16.960 liked. So, you know, naturally, I go for what people call Deep House now. And then before that,



53:16.960 –> 53:22.960 not Deep House, we had Captain Obvious (me) with Manic Cupid. Weirdly, never played that on the



53:22.960 –> 53:27.760 podcast. And I’m FIFTY FIFTY are having a moment because the excellent track in the Barbie movie,



53:27.760 –> 53:32.880 I did a mashup of that track. I was going to play it. I took it out because we don’t do the obvious



53:32.880 –> 53:36.480 on this podcast. You know, it might be good for business. It might be good for the brand.



53:36.480 –> 53:40.720 My everyone’s talking about Barbie. When I did the mashup, it was just coming out. I knew it



53:40.720 –> 53:45.040 be the big thing that it is. I’ve still not seen it. You know, whenever I was talking about it,



53:45.040 –> 53:48.640 I go and do something else. I’m not interested in constantly talking about it. This is why I’m not more



53:48.640 –> 53:55.440 successful. I just wander off of and do something else because I’m not interested in bashing on about



53:55.440 –> 53:59.840 Barbie and promoting Barbie’s movie, promoting it for Mattel or the film studio. I’m not interested



53:59.840 –> 54:04.000 in that. It’s not my thing at all. You know, I don’t mind sort of, you know, jumping on that little…



54:04.000 –> 54:09.680 It wasn’t a bandwagon because I was one of the first people to mash that Barbie Dreams track by FIFTY FIFTY.



54:09.680 –> 54:13.680 So, I wasn’t really jumping on a bandwagon, per se, because no one was jumping on that bandwagon



54:14.400 –> 54:18.720 then. But now, you know, so many people have done Barbie things. It’s all a bit like me.



54:18.720 –> 54:25.600 Yeah, I’m bored with Barbie now. So, that’s FIFTY FIFTY versus The Bangles. If you haven’t heard



54:25.600 –> 54:30.800 Cupid, it’s one of the best tracks of the year. I’m a total FIFTY FIFTY stan now. I think they want



54:30.800 –> 54:37.840 to release like six tracks and I just don’t get Blackpink and the other K-Bop acts. I don’t really



54:37.840 –> 54:43.200 get BTS or any of those things. They’re the first one I’ve gone, yeah, I get you. I get you. I



54:43.200 –> 54:47.040 like you. So, yeah, I’m very much a FIFTY FIFTY stan, which is why I’ve done two mashups of them.



54:47.920 –> 54:56.560 And then, before that, we had Irish bootlegger, ah! Alan Hurley, with Your Monkeys Like Heaven to Touch,



54:56.560 –> 55:03.520 Engelbert Humperdinck versus Pixies. That’s from his new album, Pock Rops, part of the Rock Pops



55:03.520 –> 55:10.640 series. And some really good things on that, but that’s my favourite. It’s weird when Will was



55:10.640 –> 55:15.360 going to play some bits from it and he was like, anybody, do things stand out. I hadn’t even heard



55:15.360 –> 55:19.280 I went Engelbert Humperdinck. Yeah, it’s just a skill of mine. I’m that sad. I can look at



55:19.280 –> 55:22.800 track lists of mashups and go, that’ll work, that’ll work, that won’t work, that won’t work,



55:22.800 –> 55:26.720 that won’t work. I’ve just been doing it for 20 years. And just look at them and go, in my head,



55:26.720 –> 55:31.520 I can hear the combination. Sometimes you listen to it and go, oh, it’s the reverse. Oh, I wouldn’t



55:31.520 –> 55:36.960 want to do that way. That’s quite good. Or quite often, oh dear. I usually know within a very



55:36.960 –> 55:41.600 short period whether something is, I’ll look at the combination and go, ooh, and then I’ll listen



55:41.600 –> 55:47.120 to a brief bit of Engelbert and go, yes or no. Sorry, mashup people. You’ve laboured for hours



55:47.120 –> 55:51.520 on your Epic to make sure every part is thing. But yeah, I just go a minute in and I’m like,



55:52.560 –> 55:57.120 you know, and then if he gets a rewind, this is good, I need to play this again,



55:57.120 –> 56:02.800 in full listening to all of it, it’s good. If it’s interesting, but I don’t necessarily



56:02.880 –> 56:07.120 get it. That doesn’t mean it gets thrown away. What happens is it goes into my iPod pile.



56:07.120 –> 56:12.160 There is one track in that section, which was just before that, which was MarkJMix



56:12.160 –> 56:17.040 together Celestial, Ed Sheeran versus The Farm versus Chumbawamba vs Aerosmith.



56:17.040 –> 56:21.520 And that’s one of those because I quite liked it, but I wasn’t like merely grabbed by it.



56:21.520 –> 56:26.560 But then it started haunting me on my iPod and I went, no, this is actually, I’m aware that sometimes



56:26.560 –> 56:32.320 things go from being sleeper hits and mashups. And that’s one of those. I love that greatly.



56:32.400 –> 56:36.320 It works really well. I wasn’t aware of the Ed Sheeran Celestial track. I didn’t know it was



56:36.320 –> 56:40.720 a Pokemon movie track. It’s from last year. He does mention Pokemon in the lyrics,



56:40.720 –> 56:45.840 but I was like a bit of Pachelbel. Pachelbel’s Canon, which is what The



56:45.840 –> 56:51.920 Farm’s all together now is based on. And I’ve used that in mashups before. It’s got a joyful feel



56:51.920 –> 56:56.960 and that’s one of the best things from MarkJMix ever. And I can’t remember what it came out.



56:56.960 –> 57:01.360 I’ve got a feeling it was either early 2023 or late 2022. It’s been around for a while,



57:01.360 –> 57:05.760 but I like that greatly. It has all is not lost if you do a mashup. And I don’t know,



57:05.760 –> 57:10.800 it’s not instance. And, you know, we don’t just play bangers on this, on this podcast we play.



57:10.800 –> 57:14.880 A mixture of things. I mean, I should say that I’m over from Boards of Canada and John Rocca



57:14.880 –> 57:21.200 and Frank Ski and some mashups and all over the place, but I’m just showing off. But yes,



57:21.200 –> 57:26.800 so now we’re going to play a, I say drama based mashup. I mean, it’s by Lee Spoons. It has to



57:26.800 –> 57:32.800 be drum and bass, but it’s also a winner of one of the Crumplbanger challenges. And I think you



57:32.800 –> 57:38.400 had to do tracks that were around before your birthday for the challenge. I think it was Peggy



57:38.400 –> 57:45.680 P. I’m not sure who said that child. So what he did was do a jungle track based around tunes



57:45.680 –> 57:51.600 from 1975, which was his birthday, but obviously before his birth. And it’s,



01:22:40.240 –> 01:22:46.960 That was DEADLETTER as mentioned earlier in the podcast, dEgenerate Inanimate, that’s the one



01:22:46.960 –> 01:22:53.360 there, playing alot on 6Music, I think where I first heard it. Tom Robinson filling in for



01:22:53.360 –> 01:22:58.320 Steve Lamacq played that and I was like, oh, I went into the back catalog and I would say



01:22:58.320 –> 01:23:03.680 one to watch, definitely. I like the use of words, you know, it’s not often you say, oh yeah,



01:23:03.680 –> 01:23:09.040 I like that wordplay, but I do like that wordplay a lot. And then before that, we had DubXanne



01:23:09.040 –> 01:23:14.560 with Girls Just Want To Have Fun, well it’s really Boys Just Want To Have Fun, featuring Denham. I



01:23:14.560 –> 01:23:19.840 love the gender switching in that, that’s brilliant and that’s from Pop Wave In Dub that came out in



01:23:19.840 –> 01:23:25.440 the year. And before that, we had a measure that’s been around for a while and it’s one of those



01:23:25.440 –> 01:23:32.240 always the bridemaid tracks that’s Minor Arth with the Edge Of Sloop John B. It fits the sort



01:23:32.240 –> 01:23:37.600 of watery river theme sort of. That’s the Beach Boys versus Panda Bear and Sonic Boom. I didn’t



01:23:37.600 –> 01:23:40.720 know Panda Bear and Sonic Boom did an album together, I think two albums together. Well,



01:23:41.280 –> 01:23:45.360 one was produced by Sonic Boom and then they did a collab album together. I’ve had bits of it,



01:23:45.360 –> 01:23:50.000 I need to listen to it properly. It’s weird, you hear something in the mashup and you go, oh,



01:23:50.000 –> 01:23:53.440 that sounds really good and you don’t listen to the actual thing, something’s missing.



01:23:54.080 –> 01:23:57.760 And that’s a sign of a good mashup that sounds actually gone. Oh, well that sounds, I mean,



01:23:57.760 –> 01:24:01.520 obviously Panda Bear, it’s not a massive stretch. I mean, everyone said Panda Bear



01:24:02.320 –> 01:24:07.360 is ripping off Beach Boys, especially with Panda Bear’s vocals. Yes, it’s not news,



01:24:08.000 –> 01:24:12.560 but it turns out, yeah, what’s missing from Panda Bear is the Beach Boys stuff. Who knew?



01:24:13.200 –> 01:24:17.760 But it works really well. And then before that, we had, yeah, more FIFTY FIFTY stans,



01:24:17.760 –> 01:24:22.880 that’s Loving Me. I think, I’m not sure, it’s hard to say what that’s all about. It seems to be about



01:24:22.880 –> 01:24:27.840 loving yourself, which is a very Lizzo, I shouldn’t mention Lizzo, should I? It would have been a



01:24:27.840 –> 01:24:33.280 very Lizzo thing to do. Apparently, loving yourself in the case of Lizzo is more hating



01:24:33.280 –> 01:24:38.480 other people. I agree with spite being a motivator, but that’s not really the message she was putting



01:24:38.480 –> 01:24:43.360 out, so yeah. Yeah, I think it’s about loving yourself, and I’d go with that message entirely.



01:24:43.360 –> 01:24:48.480 I’ve said before, not enough songs that’ve got a little spoken word bits in them. The spoken word



01:24:48.480 –> 01:24:55.600 revival, not, I mean, fucking, oh please no, not poetry slam shit. I mean, spoken word bits in



01:24:55.600 –> 01:25:03.040 song revival starts here. If it happens, you can blame it on me. Then before that, we had



01:25:03.680 –> 01:25:12.560 Chain Pigs, Black Sabbath versus Fleetwood Mac, that’s Danny Macabre originally, and it’s a collab with



01:25:12.560 –> 01:25:18.080 iWillBattle, because iWillBattle played it, the original mashup. There was a third thing in there.



01:25:18.080 –> 01:25:25.120 Both of us went, that doesn’t work, but that idea is brilliant. And nice to see Will went and worked



01:25:25.120 –> 01:25:29.680 with Danny Macabre in doing a new version, or I kind of, maybe it’s a reboot. I’m not sure how it



01:25:29.760 –> 01:25:34.160 happened, but sometimes reboots are good. I know there was a big debate about reboots,



01:25:34.160 –> 01:25:41.120 but sometimes reboots are for good. And yeah, it’s good to play a Danny Macabre track on the



01:25:41.120 –> 01:25:46.720 podcast. I want to watch it again. Then before that, we had, and I can’t believe this happened,



01:25:48.080 –> 01:25:53.760 I was watching Rick Beato. He did a really good interview with Daniel Lanois. Daniel Lanois



01:25:53.760 –> 01:25:57.680 did not mention his Venetian Snares album. I am disappointed in that, because I would



01:25:57.760 –> 01:26:01.520 say in every five seconds saying, you know, fuck U2, I don’t care about U2.



01:26:01.520 –> 01:26:08.400 I worked with Venetian Snares. In 2018, he did, and this is not even a lockdown album. It sounds



01:26:08.400 –> 01:26:14.000 like a lockdown album. This is 2018. He went and worked with Venetian Snares, Aaron Funk. So



01:26:14.560 –> 01:26:19.200 you have those slide guitars and very Lanois touches, and then it goes into the classic Venetian



01:26:19.200 –> 01:26:27.120 Snare’s. He’d heard his, I’m not going to say the Rossz album, the Hungarian album, it’s easy to say.



01:26:28.160 –> 01:26:32.960 by Venetian Snares, I love that. Quite rightly so. It’s an amazing album. I’m not sure it totally



01:26:32.960 –> 01:26:43.200 works, but I love the fact that they did that. It’s called Night Mxcmpv1 P74. Yeah, it’s like



01:26:43.200 –> 01:26:50.480 the Apex Twin naming schema, isn’t it? And yeah, it’s very much similar to that. It’s like slide



01:26:50.480 –> 01:26:57.520 guitar. Oh, It’s A Blue Day. You know, you know, Apollo. Here we go. And suddenly, you know, Venetian



01:26:57.520 –> 01:27:03.200 Snares crashes in. I do wonder how they worked because I’m pretty sure Venetian Snares works in



01:27:03.200 –> 01:27:08.080 MED or works in a tracker system. He might not do that now, but he used to. I have this weird image



01:27:08.080 –> 01:27:14.720 of Venetian Snares showing him an Amiga going, I do it on this and him going, what? I just got that



01:27:14.720 –> 01:27:19.680 metal image. It makes me laugh. It’s an interesting album. Check it out. And I love the fact that



01:27:19.760 –> 01:27:24.880 he went, I don’t know this music. This is completely beyond my experience. I must go and



01:27:24.880 –> 01:27:29.440 and that’s how he learns. He goes and works with people and goes, this is a new thing. I’m not



01:27:29.440 –> 01:27:34.080 going to run away from it. I want to know more about this. That’s how he’s still, you know,



01:27:34.080 –> 01:27:38.480 in demand as a producer today and as an artist. And then before that, we have The Way We Were In



01:27:38.480 –> 01:27:43.920




And I’ve actually tagged ir, wasn’t in the original. I’ve actually tagged every single artist




01:27:43.920 –> 01:27:49.360 in this. It took me ages and it’s the longest tag name in my library in probably in history.



01:27:49.360 –> 01:27:53.440 Well not in history. Gladys Night and THe Pips versus Windsor Davies and Don Estelle.



01:27:53.440 –> 01:28:00.000 That was the Jungle bit. Johnny Nash, Wings, Kraftwerk, Judge Dread, The Stylistics, Eric Clapton,



01:28:00.000 –> 01:28:05.440 10cc, the Goonies, Judy Collins, and anyone who knows me. No, maybe not last bit.



01:28:05.440 –> 01:28:09.280 I love the fact that he obviously got the bass, I think, from Judge Dread. That might be the



01:28:09.760 –> 01:28:15.920 vocal bits. But I think it’s The Stylistics is that little rave style, but he just took one of the



01:28:16.640 –> 01:28:21.680 horn sections and uses a classic, classic rave jungle technique. Yeah. So it’s like plunderphonics.



01:28:21.680 –> 01:28:27.520 It’s plunderphonics, jungle, that kind of like nostalgic jungle, plunderphonic. I heard a lot



01:28:27.520 –> 01:28:32.240 more, please, from Lee. Lee Spoons, 10,000 Spoons. Please, more of that, please. I love that.



01:28:32.240 –> 01:28:38.240 I love that because it’s a bit similar to his mixtapes, hasn’t it? He does his shows on



01:28:39.120 –> 01:28:43.920 is it, I forget the name of the radio stations. It’s noise box radio, something that I probably



01:28:43.920 –> 01:28:50.320 remember that wrong. And kind of similar, but not as layered. And I like that layering. I haven’t



01:28:50.320 –> 01:28:55.760 heard that from Lee before, but he does rhyme me on some of the chaotic, wonderfully chaotic mixes



01:28:55.760 –> 01:29:00.080 he did, although they’re more like A versus B versus C. There wasn’t like that level of



01:29:00.080 –> 01:29:05.360 medley layering and plundafonicness. And yeah, no, I like to hear more of that. I mean, I have to



01:29:05.360 –> 01:29:11.600 say that the Irish stuff is coming. It’s on the bus. It’s just late. I feel bad for trailing it now.



01:29:11.600 –> 01:29:15.840 I’m like, Tim, why did you trail this stuff when it’s right at the end? Duh, like really.



01:29:15.840 –> 01:29:22.160 So we’re going to play a track. Well, this is Viv Stanshall. And I don’t know where it’s from.



01:29:22.160 –> 01:29:26.880 I think it’s one of the radio flashes, but this is him doing a John Peel impression.



02:10:46.640 –> 02:10:53.920 That was Joni Mitchell, recorded live on the Miles of Aisles record of 1974. That’s The Circle



02:10:53.920 –> 02:11:01.600 Game. Wow, yeah. And yeah, I think I prefer that version. It’s kind of sad because there’s lots of



02:11:02.240 –> 02:11:07.360 recordings, or live recordings, of Joni Mitchell. And she’s always saying, come on,



02:11:07.360 –> 02:11:11.520 sing along. But the problem is, her songs were actually quite hard to sing even for… Well,



02:11:11.520 –> 02:11:14.800 she used to sing when I was five. She didn’t realise that other people can’t sing her songs.



02:11:16.160 –> 02:11:19.840 As if they know them. That’s one of the simpler ones. But that was recorded



02:11:20.480 –> 02:11:26.240 in Los Angeles. And it’s about Neil Young, because apparently, Neil, fellow Canadian,



02:11:26.240 –> 02:11:30.320 Neil Young was very happy. So there is a Neil Young Down By The River link. There is.



02:11:31.280 –> 02:11:36.880 That he’d reached 20, and he couldn’t go to the teeny-bopper clubs, because apparently he had



02:11:36.880 –> 02:11:40.240 age restrictions, which sounds a bit crazy. I had the idea of clubs with age restrictions,



02:11:40.240 –> 02:11:45.760 like, oh, you have to be under 21 or whatever. And he wrote a song about that. And she wrote



02:11:45.760 –> 02:11:50.560 that song as a response saying, what piffle, you know, you’ve got other things you can do.



02:11:50.560 –> 02:11:54.560 It’s not your end of your life at 20. What silly, silly silliness. Yeah, it’s talked to me about



02:11:54.560 –> 02:12:04.160




And then one of the Irish tracks, that’s Cara Dillon, who is from…Dungiven in London Derry,




02:12:04.160 –> 02:12:08.880 which, as I say, the… Some part of my family comes from Ulster. So I don’t know where in Ulster.



02:12:09.440 –> 02:12:15.520 Ulster’s a big place. And that’s Blue Mountain River. And that’s from her 2001



02:12:16.240 –> 02:12:22.640 eponymous solo debut, Cara Dillon, which I must have heard back in the day. I’m pretty sure I did,



02:12:22.640 –> 02:12:27.120 because I did know her cover of Black is the Colour, which I played at the start.



02:12:27.120 –> 02:12:31.760 And for some reason, I assumed I played it, because that’s one of my favourite songs of all time.



02:12:31.760 –> 02:12:37.760 And weirdly, I never did. I don’t know what happened there. And that’s a self-penned song



02:12:37.760 –> 02:12:45.280 with Seth Lakeman. And yeah, it’s really, really a beautiful song. Very much about similar to loving



02:12:45.280 –> 02:12:51.200 me about, you know, going out to nature and learning to love yourself in the Blue Mountain River.



02:12:51.200 –> 02:12:56.240 But obviously anything that’s got lyrics about uncertain times is always



02:12:56.240 –> 02:13:03.120 resonating with me at the moment. And before that, we had what’s more Irish than a song in Gaelic



02:13:03.760 –> 02:13:12.400 that’s Clannad with Coinleach Glas An Fhómhair, I think. I looked it up. Yes, you never believe how



02:13:12.400 –> 02:13:19.120 Fhómhair, which is autumn, is spell. It does not look like what it is. And even, I would say,



02:13:19.120 –> 02:13:24.720 Coinleach, being more, you know, a true Scottish, not Coinleach, but, you know, Coinleach.



02:13:24.720 –> 02:13:31.760 It’s not anyway. Glas is glass. But what it means is The Green Fields Of Autumn. And there is a link.



02:13:31.760 –> 02:13:37.520 And I found this when I was actually putting this just recording it. I was like, King of Spain.



02:13:37.520 –> 02:13:43.200 I was reading about County Offaly, otherwise formally known as Kings County, where apparently,



02:13:43.200 –> 02:13:48.960 if it’s true, if the ancestry.co.uk and all people’s trees are lying, which is always a big



02:13:48.960 –> 02:13:54.320 thing. But that said, I do actually know from my dad, we have Irish families. I know that part



02:13:54.320 –> 02:14:00.960 of the family is Irish. My great-great-grandmother, her parents were Irish. I knew there was a link



02:14:00.960 –> 02:14:07.840 there on that side. So it’s not like, oh, shock. I thought it was closer. I knew it wasn’t a grandmother



02:14:07.840 –> 02:14:12.640 because otherwise, I would be off and getting an Irish passport in a fucking millisecond.



02:14:13.280 –> 02:14:17.680 I knew it was further than that. It was a great-great grandmother. But,



02:14:18.400 –> 02:14:25.120 yeah, the King’s County is named after the King of Spain. This is all to do with Jacobite rebellion.



02:14:25.120 –> 02:14:32.880 And it got renamed to Offaly, which is kind of like the original name. It’s not actually the same,



02:14:32.880 –> 02:14:38.720 exactly the same, but the area was an older region. But yeah, that song mentions the King of Spain



02:14:38.720 –> 02:14:44.480 because it’s about a woman, probably. It’s always hard to tell with traditional songs because that’s



02:14:44.480 –> 02:14:52.640 18th century, supporting her lover who’s fighting abroad. I think France. So it suggests it’s probably



02:14:52.640 –> 02:14:59.280 about The Wild Geese who were the Jacobite army who went off to France to fight after The Glorious



02:14:59.280 –> 02:15:04.160 Revolution, in quotes, the invasion, the Dutch invasion, which is what it was. It’s interesting



02:15:04.160 –> 02:15:09.040 how they wrote the history books to say it was a Glorious Revolution. And it was all welcome.



02:15:09.040 –> 02:15:13.520 And it was like, no, if they were totally welcome, why did they bring all of their army with them?



02:15:14.080 –> 02:15:19.760 In many boats. If it was a formality, why would you bring your



02:15:21.120 –> 02:15:27.520 navy with you? Which is what happened a certain year. But because of that, the agreement was they’d



02:15:27.520 –> 02:15:34.720 left. And so it mentions the King of Spain. So I think it’s probably about that sort of



02:15:34.720 –> 02:15:39.840 period. It’s debated, but yeah, it mentions the King of Spain. So that is definitely the King’s



02:15:39.840 –> 02:15:45.280 Counties. There’s a link there. And that’s from Magical Ring from 1983. I could have played the



02:15:45.280 –> 02:15:50.000 original version because that’s not the original version they did. They did on their second ever



02:15:50.000 –> 02:15:59.040 album. I think 1973 or four, somewhere about them, they did a cover. And I prefer the 1983.



02:15:59.040 –> 02:16:03.680 It’s production’s a bit better, but they’re both really, really good. It’s just a haunting song.



02:16:03.680 –> 02:16:07.760 Songs about autumn usually are. I mean, it figures because my favourite song is Autumn Leaves,



02:16:07.760 –> 02:16:13.840 which is very Wistful. And then also wistful was DDir Hank on Drugs. Well, not that title.



02:16:14.880 –> 02:16:21.200 Bad Habits in Hotel California, Eagles versus Ed Sheeran. I think Sir Hank listens to his mashups



02:16:21.200 –> 02:16:25.120 on speakers. Just listen to the start of that mashup. I had noticed that before and I was



02:16:25.120 –> 02:16:28.880 going, why is that panned like that? I think you don’t listen to your mashups on headphones



02:16:28.880 –> 02:16:33.200 Sir Hank. I’m not sure what that was done probably about when Bad Habits came out because



02:16:33.200 –> 02:16:38.480 it seems to be Sir Hank, it seems to mostly seems to work on new pop as it arrives.



02:16:39.200 –> 02:16:44.720 However, which you can all find on remix.audio as he’s uploaded everything he’s done, which is



02:16:44.720 –> 02:16:50.000 amazing. It was hard to find before, as I know from my mashup, which I accidentally rebooted him.



02:16:50.640 –> 02:16:56.960 But yeah, it’s nice to hear all this back catalog of work. And there’s a few bits which



02:16:56.960 –> 02:17:02.160 I accidentally reboot some other things, which is, I hope you didn’t mind that, but if he does,



02:17:02.160 –> 02:17:06.640 he’s actually actually rebooted a few things as well, I’ve noticed. So yeah, it goes around.



02:17:06.640 –> 02:17:12.640 We all do it at some point. Then before that, we had Famous Blue Cable with River Man Featuring



02:17:12.640 –> 02:17:20.480 Feist. That’s from The Endless Coloured Ways. The song was new released back in May.



02:17:20.480 –> 02:17:28.400 And I call my River Man series after that song. It’s very mystical about that song. It’s very



02:17:28.400 –> 02:17:34.400 strange. He was studying English at Cambridge. So I actually worked out where the Lilac Time comes



02:17:34.400 –> 02:17:37.760 from, because I was looking into it, because it’s always struck me as a very interesting phrase,



02:17:37.760 –> 02:17:43.120 but an odd phrase. And a lot of the stuff you look online refers to the Lilac Time, the band



02:17:43.120 –> 02:17:47.600 who were named after it. But they don’t say where it came from. It came from Alfred Noyes. He did a



02:17:47.600 –> 02:17:54.000 song called The Barrel Organ. Well, it’s a poem called The Barrel Organ. And it got made into a song



02:17:54.000 –> 02:18:00.480 called Go Down to Kew in Lilac Time, which the poem mentioned Lilac Time, and that’s the probably



02:18:00.480 –> 02:18:04.800 the earliest I’ve come across it. Go Down To Kew in Lilac Time, and Lilac Time, and Lilac Time,



02:18:04.800 –> 02:18:09.600 Go Down To Kew in Lilac Time. It isn’t far from London. And you shall wander hand in hand with love in



02:18:09.600 –> 02:18:14.960 summer’s wonderland. Go Down To Kew in Lilac Time. It isn’t far from London. Although it says it’s a



02:18:14.960 –> 02:18:19.200 poem, it is written like a song. I don’t know whether that’s the actual song that was influenced me



02:18:19.360 –> 02:18:25.120 anyway. That is where that came from most likely, because it would have studied Alfred Noyes.



02:18:25.760 –> 02:18:31.440 Oh, mad. Yeah, I know of Alfred Noyes, because he wrote a poem which we studied at school called



02:18:31.440 –> 02:18:36.880 The Highwayman, which became the inspiration for the video. And probably this song, but definitely



02:18:36.880 –> 02:18:41.200 the video Fleetwood Mac Everywhere. I want to see with you everywhere that video is when I saw it



02:18:41.200 –> 02:18:46.000 I freaked out like that’s The Highwayman. It’s a fairly, it was a Dark and Stormy Night type



02:18:46.720 –> 02:18:50.640 poem. The story’s quite good. And yeah, it’s the same guy. That’s interesting, because we had



02:18:50.640 –> 02:18:55.840 Fleetwood Mac in this mix as well. It all connects in weird ways. Yeah, I was wondering if it was



02:18:55.840 –> 02:19:02.800 the same Alfred Noyes. So before the Famous Blue Table, we had Joni Mitchell again with the Dawn



02:19:02.800 –> 02:19:09.360 Treader. That’s the 2021 remaster that came out on Song to a Seagull in 1968. And originally it was



02:19:09.360 –&